May 05 07:08:51 <chiselfuse>	i'm so done with webshit
May 05 07:15:46 <rindolf>	chiselfuse: i love the web, but find webdev hard
May 05 07:17:51 <rindolf>	chiselfuse: https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-all-cards-on-the-table-2013/indiv-nodes/machines_that_can_give_questions.xhtml
May 05 07:17:52 <Natasha8>	>> Putting all the Cards on the Table (2013) - The Machines That Can Give You Questions
May 05 07:26:15 <rindolf>	https://tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/ 
May 05 07:26:15 <Natasha8>	>> Software disenchantment @ tonsky.me
May 05 07:41:15 <cantelope>	Heh
May 05 07:41:43 <rindolf>	https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/site_loads_quickly.xhtml ; OTOH, a rebuild of my site takes ~4mins
May 05 07:41:44 <Natasha8>	>> Shlomi Fish’s FAQ - This site loads so quickly. What is your secret?
May 05 07:41:56 <cantelope>	Their first mistake is thinking that mediocrity is isolated to software
May 05 07:43:17 <cantelope>	Modern cars in fact do not "run at 98% efficiency of what's possible". Rather they're very carefully designed to shit the bed within 10 years 
May 05 07:44:51 <cantelope>	Phones, everything pretty much
May 05 07:48:40 <rindolf>	cantelope: i hate the terresterial consumerism of refrigerators / washing machines / etc
May 05 07:49:16 <cantelope>	K
May 05 07:51:50 <rindolf>	many PC XT boxes are still operational
May 05 07:53:43 <cantelope>	XP?
May 05 07:54:11 <rindolf>	cantelope: no - XT
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May 05 07:55:29 <rindolf>	8088 / DOS / etc
May 05 07:58:07 <rindolf>	cantelope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_XT
May 05 07:56:58 <cantelope>	Yeah, things used to be made to last in general. It was thought that longevity/durability was a selling point, before research indicated ppl are too stupid not to just keep buying disposable crap
May 05 07:57:24 <cantelope>	Still see plenty of old Volkswagens on the road, for example
May 05 07:58:28 <cantelope>	Make things break quickly, because it pays. Bravo, capitalism... *slow clap*
May 05 08:04:12 <rindolf>	https://shlomif-tech.livejournal.com/741.html
May 05 08:04:14 <Natasha8>	>> Common Fallacies No. 1: the Broken Window Fallacy: shlomif_tech — LiveJournal
May 05 08:04:30 <rindolf>	cantelope: ^^
May 05 08:07:05 <cantelope>	Yeah I see it. The problem isn't fallacies or greed. These are predictable features of any economic model that overrelies on competition. Competition in fact isn't even the crux of an open market system as were told, but rather freedom to choose, a very different thing
May 05 08:08:02 <cantelope>	There will be fallacies, and deception and inequity as long as you are at odds with your own neighbors, financially
May 05 08:08:57 <cantelope>	They are literally you economic adversaries under capitalism.l, and therefore balance is impossible
May 05 08:09:39 <cantelope>	The margins all become battlegrounds, versus equilibrium as in a cooperative environment
May 05 08:38:20 <rindolf>	cantelope: my thoughts:  https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/indiv-nodes/amateur-modelled-commerce.xhtml
May 05 08:38:21 <Natasha8>	>> Putting Cards on the Table (2019-*) - Amateur-modelled commerce
May 05 09:59:30 <rindolf>	Rashad: hi, sup?
May 05 10:01:02 <Rashad>	rindolf hey
May 05 10:01:09 <Rashad>	beautiful calm Friday morning 
May 05 10:02:51 <n0xx>	hello
May 05 10:04:47 <Rashad>	hello n0xx 
May 05 10:04:52 <Rashad>	rindolf sup?
May 05 10:04:56 <Rashad>	n0xx sup?
May 05 10:05:05 <rindolf>	Rashad: ah. is it still ramadan?
May 05 10:05:50 <rindolf>	Rashad: it is my 46th bday
May 05 10:06:43 <n0xx>	enjoying i'm really enjoying designing databases right now, and whats going on on the other side? :)
May 05 10:10:21 <n0xx>	yeah
May 05 10:11:09 <Rashad>	rindolf no Ramadan finished a little while ago
May 05 10:11:16 <Rashad>	rindolf happy birthday!!!!!!
May 05 10:12:55 <n0xx>	happy birthday! :)
May 05 10:16:25 <rindolf>	Rashad: n0xx : thanks
May 05 10:18:32 <rindolf>	i was effectively born in sep1983 tho
May 05 10:22:35 <rindolf>	https://twitter.com/shlomif/status/1627138342499352577
May 05 10:22:36 <Natasha8>	>> Shlomi Fish on Twitter: "Someone on IRC told me "you haven't updated your website's style im 50 years". 1973 is before the WWW was invented in 1989. For ref: * https://t.co/l5YzBHEMrL * https://t.co/a7E1uTOtB9" / Twitter
May 05 10:26:38 <rindolf>	ppl *cannot* be so cruel and dumb. there *is* a conspiracy
May 05 10:28:28 <Rashad>	stupidity as a conspiracy? 🤔
May 05 10:28:30 <Rashad>	interesting 
May 05 10:29:39 <rindolf>	Rashad: see https://twitter.com/shlomif/status/1654136889488687112
May 05 10:29:42 <Natasha8>	>> Shlomi Fish on Twitter: "You claim I became stupid cause I claim this hell isn't real. But I have evidence: https://t.co/qjWOgHq97N . Moreover, these recent creations prove I'm smart: 1) https://t.co/WBvdbxF1j2 ; 2) https://t.co/yg9UhaJx87" / Twitter
May 05 10:52:47 <rindolf>	Rashad: https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/culture/case-for-commercial-fan-fiction/ was my last 'sane' model of my 'real world' and it collapsed under its own weighht
May 05 10:52:49 <Natasha8>	>> Commercial Real Person Fan Fiction (RPFs), crossovers and parodies as 2021 geek/hacker imperatives for revitalising the film industry - Shlomi Fish’s Homesite