rindolf | I had the craziest idea |
paddy | sell all computers? |
rindolf | I'm going to announce that if and when I ever accumulate at least 10 million USD / 10 million EUR / or 10 million ILS - whatever currency is worth more at the point in my PayPal account I'll make the entire individual cultural works residing at my site (at present) CC-by except for those that I consider private / personal or those that were not original text and copied from elsewhere. I may not be as rich as J. K. Rowling used to be (before |
rindolf | she donated most of her > 1,000,000,000 USD to charity - good for her) but with good marketing I may be settled for life. And I'll set all my current (not future ones naturally) children free and enjoy the rip offs, parodies, YouTube productions and maybe even ARR Hollywood films with a credit "Based on the Story [ $NAME ] [ URL ] by Shlomi Fish https://www.shlomifish.org/" at the credits for the rest of my life |
rindolf | paddy: my computers are not worth a lot and they contain a small amount of passwords I wish to keep secret |
rindolf | AFAIK it can be Bill Gates donating the whole 10 million or a million 10 dollar donations |
jxself | Okay so it'll basically never happen then. :) |
rindolf | I'll title the blog post "Prolific writer sells his entire works portfolio for the whole world for a shitload of money" |
rindolf | jxself: never say never |
rindolf | </James Bond> |
jxself | I just did. |
rindolf | jxself: you lost |
jxself | Let me know when you get your ten million. |
bheron | rindolf: Donate 1 million to the GNUstep foundation I'm about to form… help us dominate the world. ;) |
rindolf | bheron: forget it |
bheron | LOL |
rindolf | bheron: waste of money |
bheron | :) |
rindolf | I may donate to the Free Software Foundation |
bheron | Hey man!!! World domination is a good thing. :) |
ggoes | fund the hurd! |
bheron | Once we control the world, all will be good... I promise. :D |
bheron | YIKES! Hurd. |
rindolf | bheron: you wont get it even with a milliard dollars |
rindolf | bheron: and I'm not willing to donate a cent |
bheron | I know. Hey, as long as it works for me and others... I'm happy. |
rindolf | bheron: got to prioritize |
bheron | rindolf: And we were getting along so nicely last time! ;) |
rindolf | btw my text here is CC-by-nc-sa for now |
rindolf | bheron: maybe twit https://twitter.com/Taylorswift13 - I think she is rich and she probably has a smart phone or more and I like many of her songs so she may be interested |
rindolf | don't know how much taxes I'll have to pay |
rindolf | I think Israel is not as bad as Britain was when https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxman was written |
rindolf | nice song btw |
bheron | rindolf: Probably worse. |
rindolf | I like the Beatles too |
rindolf | bheron: what? no! |
rindolf | bheron: anyway I'll pay all the taxes from however I got just to stay on the safe side |
rindolf | don't want any trouble |
bheron | rindolf: you forgot that Taylor Swift shares her last name with a cockamamie language produced by apple for people who are too fucking stupid to comprehend Objective-C. ;) |
rindolf | health >>> money |
bheron | I mean Objective-C is verbose and self documenting yet many people (who have the nerve to call themselves real programmers) can't handle it. ;) |
bheron | (hehe) |
rindolf | bheron: great - ad hominem |
bheron | No...l |
rindolf | bheron: maybe she'll sue apple for trademark damages |
rindolf | and win |
bheron | I hope so. |
rindolf | bheron: ask her |
bheron | you know... the swift guys wrote me about when GNUstep will support swift... |
bheron | I told them "Once your language syntax and structure stops changing radically every release, we will support it..." |
bheron | it hasn't freaking stopped yet. :) |
bheron | I once used it on a project for AMGEN. |
bheron | I had to literally rewrite the application EVERY TIME THEY RELEASED an update. |
bheron | It's actually not terribly hard to make it happen... there is a bit of code in the swift open source code which would allow it to happen.... it would be, maybe, about 2 weeks of work. |
bheron | rindolf: and you're right, it is an "ad hominem" attack with respect to what I said about certain programmers and Objective C... but the way I see it some people don't know assembly... is it the fault of the language or are they simply too dim to get it? |
bheron | (most likely the latter) |
rindolf | bheron: you need to charge more |
bheron | for? |
rindolf | bheron: if it's swift pay me 100,000 USD / year |
bheron | Oh… well for that job with AMGEN I charged $85 USD/hour. |
rindolf | bheron: peanuts |
bheron | which works out to about, estimating... 144,000? |
rindolf | bheron: aren't you living in .us? |
bheron | Yes |
bheron | That's a decent living. |
bheron | better than decent. |
rindolf | you can charge 300 USD / hour for swift |
bheron | Hah... I have never met a developer who made that much per hour in my life. |
bheron | rindolf: have you ever contracted in the US? |
rindolf | bheron: prices send signals - https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/joel-on-software.html#joel-camels-rubber-duckies-11 |
rindolf | bheron: I'm sure there are |
rindolf | bheron: Bill Gates won't get out of bed for 300 USD/hour |
rindolf | as an example |
bheron | https://www.google.com/search?q=average+per+hour+income+of+developers&oq=average+per+hour+income+of+developers&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.9671j1j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
rindolf | bheron: think big |
bheron | Heh. |
bheron | Think myself out of every contract I could get. ;) |
bheron | the only way I'll make that is if I make my own apps... which I am trying to do. |
bheron | But you are correct on one thing... I need to think bigger. |
bheron | Because this contracting crap just isn't doing it. |
rindolf | bheron: in the book the princess bride a sword craftsman whose secret better craftsman was killed by the 6 fingered man charged more and more for his now pretty bad results and the more he charged the greater the demand was |
rindolf | bheron: have you read my link? |
bheron | Yes. |
rindolf | I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift's time is worth more than 300 USD/hour |
bheron | It doesn't justify charging 185% over the national average when I'm already on the top end of the bell curve. |
bheron | That's called "Pricing yourself out of a job" |
bheron | I get what you're saying, I simply disagree. |
rindolf | if you offer her 900 USD for a three hour concert she won't bother replying |
bheron | I've known developers who charged 100 per hour.... when the company needed to downsize, those guys were the first to go. |
rindolf | bheron: ah |
rindolf | bheron: why do you need donations anyway? |
bheron | The lesson is... keep your prices reasonable. A little painful, but not too hard to swallow. :) |
jmd | $100 per hour is not a over the average these days. |
bheron | rindolf: Joking. :) I don't. I have enough right now. |
bheron | jmd: read the link I posted... it is slightly above average. |
bheron | The AMGEN job was years ago... I won't say how much I'm pulling in now. |
rindolf | well, unless she'll really identify with your cause |
jmd | My company charges between 250 - 400 (but I don't get to see nearly that much) |
bheron | I wasn't the one who mentioned Taylor Swift. ;) |
jmd | bheron: That's something to do with infinite series expansion isn't it? |
bheron | jmd: What are you referring to? |
bheron | AMGEN? |
rindolf | bheron: once in bay watch the fictional head life guard called Jenny McCarthy the famous MTV video jockey and said "Jenny McCarthy? Hi, it's Mitch Buchannon" |
bheron | AMGEN = Applied Molecular GENetics. They are a medical biotechnology company. They make medicines derived from genetically modified bacteria which produce certain proteins... Things like Enbrel or other biologically based things. |
bheron | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amgen |
rindolf | so we joked "Bill Clinton? Hi, it's Shlomi Fish you know me, right?" |
bheron | LOL |
rindolf | bheron: https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Larry-Wall/ - I was told he is only spiritually rich |
rindolf | bheron: but Linus Torvalds is believed to make 20 million USD a year |
bheron | rindolf: I think you need to listen to a lot of the arguments you're making yourself... I would like to know.... |
bheron | WHAT IS YOUR POINT? |
bheron | That I should charge some outrageous amount of money? |
bheron | That I'm undervaluing my work in some way... what are you trying to prove? |
bheron | So far you've hit me with several RIDICULOUS things... get to the point. :) |
rindolf | bheron: one day people will say "I don't remember who the prime minister of Israel is. It's not like he has 300 million Twitter followers like bheron does..." |
bheron | LOL |
rindolf | bheron: I'm being motivational. |
bheron | No. |
rindolf | but time to write the blog post and try to get it on internet news sites |
rindolf | do or do not there is no try - Yoda |
bheron | You're being *ridiculous*... first off, you've likely never ever lived here in the US... so you have second hand experience about the financial or economic situation at best... and second you're giving these weird off the wall examples based on celebrities or people (like Linus) who were in the right place at the right time. |
bheron | I would have LOVED if my sophomore project in college turned into the UNIX that took over the world. :) |
bheron | Right place... |
bheron | right tie. |
bheron | *time |
bheron | Linus is NOT particularly talented. |
bheron | Just good at being something of an asshole. |
bheron | Linux is a Monolithic, poorly architected implementation of UNIX... to quote Ken Thomson, "Those who do not know UNIX are doomed to reimplement it... poorly" |
rindolf | bheron: https://twitter.com/GeorgeLucasILM - only 22.4 k followers |
rindolf | bheron: she has a bitch image and she used to be the number one twitter account surpassing president Obama - https://twitter.com/katyperry |
bheron | Just like GCC is a crappy compiler... it needs to learn lessons from clang... did you know that gcc explicitly didn't break out things like the parser and other functionality which would have been better put into libraries so that other programs could use them because RMS was that "it would make it too easy for other apps which are proprietary to use functionality without giving back to the compiler" (I'm paraphrasing). |
bheron | .. I know this because that answer was given to me when I was trying to build a parser for C header files for a project a while back. (it was for Gorm to discover objects which could be used as target/action candidates) |
bheron | I don't care. :) |
rindolf | bheron: she was known for replying to replies and retweeting replies she liked and stuff like that - https://twitter.com/katyperry |
rindolf | bheron: I'm following https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/ and she seems to hate president trump |
rindolf | bheron: of course I think many of his tweets are either good or so bad they are good |
bheron | rindolf: She hates him for a good reason... |
bheron | he's a fucking moron. |
bheron | I hate him more than most. |
bheron | Why people in this country put such an idiot in office I will never fathom. |
bheron | People often said... "Well, he's not a politician". To which I responded... "then let your next colonoscopy be performed by a plumber" |
rindolf | bheron:we are getting out of gnu land |
bheron | We are. |
bheron | To get us back... |
bheron | GCC needs a kick in the ass. |
rindolf | bheron: you should run for president when you get 300 million Twitter followers |
bheron | LOL |
bheron | I would never survive. |
bheron | Too many dark things in my past. ;) |
rindolf | bheron: then become the next pope |
rindolf | bheron: see https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-all-cards-on-the-table-2013/#departing_pope_about_twitter |
bheron | rindolf: I'm an atheist. |
bheron | Me becoming pope would be a true miracle. ;) |
bheron | rindolf: well... strictly speaking I'm an "agnostic" in the same way Richard Dawkins is... see his discussion about teapots orbiting Mars. :) |
rindolf | bheron: please read the link at the anchor - I am an agnostic too |
bheron | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MncXMgVIZ4 |
rindolf | bheron: don't have prejudice |
bheron | I never do. |
bheron | Be right back |
rindolf | bheron: ok, then see what the departing pope despite however evil he may be taught me that twitter/facebook/google-plus/etc. are what the Gutenberg press was only much more awesome |
rindolf | bheron: ping me |