Su-Shee | hm, was there a time datatype for duration in postgres? or am I just wishful thinking? |
_DrForr | Su-Shee: 'interval'? |
rindolf | Radditz: nice. :-) |
rindolf | _DrForr++ # Helping Su-Shee |
Su-Shee | _DrForr: lemme look. merci. |
rindolf | _DrForr: why do you have a leading underscore now? |
_DrForr | At least in 9.1. |
* rindolf | eats the underscore. |
Su-Shee | _DrForr: I have the latest and shiniest postgres. |
_DrForr | Haven't found and /killed my clone, I guess. |
popl | You'll spoil your dinner. |
rindolf | It was a good underscore. Minty with a hint of cranberries. |
rindolf | _DrForr: ah. /msg NickServ HELP GHOST? |
Su-Shee | oh genius. interval hour to minute is exactly what I need. |
popl | interval is awesome |
rindolf | PostgreSQL++ |
Su-Shee | my favorite: allballs ;) |
rindolf | Underscores are the most nutritious punctuation. But you also need to eat letters, digits and whitespace for a balanced diet. |
rindolf | ;-) |
Altreus | r 2 hours ago you said you were going to sleep |
Altreus | rindolf: * |
LeoNerd | I much prefer scheme's-name-style |
rindolf | And both uppercase and lowercase letters are important. |
anno | humor! |
Su-Shee | LeoNerd: See my -? ;) |
LeoNerd | Su-Shee: ooooh... I hadn't thought of that. Yes :) |
rindolf | Altreus: I went to sleep and woke up with some great ideas for my new screenplay. |
Altreus | rindolf: do you normally sleep in short periods? |
Su-Shee | LeoNerd: sadly, doesn't work most of the time elsewhere. most login names for example don't allow - |
Altreus | rindolf: or was it just a nap |
Su-Shee | LeoNerd: half of the perlbot refuse me because of it too. ;) |
rindolf | Altreus, anno : also see http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=sharp-xkcd-programming-languages-sex-talk . |
anno | yeah, sure |
rindolf | Altreus: just a nap - lately I've been hypomanic so I sleep less at once. |
rindolf | Altreus: and wake up early. |
rindolf | Altreus: I also have many small meals. |
popl | rindolf: I have found that having a shitty job helps me regulate my depression. |
rindolf | popl: ah, OK. |
rindolf | popl: I'd like to get a job where I interact with people a lot. |
rindolf | popl: like a shop vendor. |
rindolf | popl: so far many of these places asked me for my age, and I'm 1977-born. |
rindolf | And* a Technion graduate in EE. |
rindolf | So people may think I'm overqualified. |
Su-Shee | huf! where are you! HELP! |
rindolf | But there are no small jobs - only small workers. |
_DrForr | More efficient, you can pack more into a small space. |
popl | I've seen some very large workers. |
rindolf | popl: heh. |
rindolf | popl: http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/Emma-Watson-applying-for-a-software-dev-job/ - paraphrasing on what I wrote here. |
rindolf | popl: I didn't mean small in physical size - just "Rosh qatan" and with a big ego. |
rindolf | perlbot: rosh gadol |
rindolf | perlbot: search for rosh |
rindolf | perlbot: Rosh Gadol is http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2004/12/06.html - literally "Big Head" or "Small Head", Hebrew slang for taking initiative, and being awesome at your job or responsibilities regardless of how small they are. |
perlbot | rindolf: Stored Rosh Gadol is http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2004/12/06.html - literally "Big Head" or "Small Head", Hebrew slang for taking initiative, and being awesome at your job or responsibilities regardless of how small they are. |
rindolf | perlbot: learn Rosh Qatan is [fact Rosh Gadol] |
perlbot | rindolf: Stored Rosh Qatan is [fact Rosh Gadol] as |
rindolf | perlbot: rosh qatan |
perlbot | rindolf: No factoid found. Did you mean one of these: [Rosh Gadol] |
rindolf | pink_mist: can you help? |
rindolf | perlbot: alias |
perlbot | rindolf: use the new mkalias command: mkalias foo <- bar |
rindolf | We need aliases for both rosh qatan and rosh katan |
Su-Shee | no, we don't. |
Su-Shee | or do they indicate perl stuff? |
rindolf | In The Gilmore Girls ( ♥! ), Lorelai started off as a cleaner of that inn, and ended up running that place. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: it is related to Perl. |
Su-Shee | no, it's not. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: and it has nothing to do with sex/celebrities/etc. |
Su-Shee | yes and you can still stop dropping all your private shit into the bot. |
_DrForr | No, it's a term from a blog about software. It's as related to perl as 'scrum' is. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: why do you think that perlbot should be about 100% perl stuff? |
rindolf | On irc.perl.org purl has stuff from Monty Python. |
Su-Shee | rindolf: the name "perl" bot might be an indicator. and we're not on irc.perl.org and purl is purl. |
rindolf | _DrForr++ |
_DrForr | Historical accident. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: well, we discussed Rosh Gadol/Qatan in the past here. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: it's part of #perl's culture. |
Su-Shee | nice try. you're the only one who's dropping his culture into the bot. how about making your own bot for it. |
_DrForr | I'm guessing you mean 'you' there. |
rindolf | Su-Shee: perlbot is the bot of #perl, #perlcafe, and related channels - not of the perl 5 programming language. |
_DrForr | So you're now the arbiter, I see. |
rindolf | _DrForr: what? |
rindolf | perlbot: define arbiter |
perlbot | rindolf: arbiter n 1: someone with the power to settle matters at will; "she was the final arbiter on all matters of fashion" [syn: {arbiter}, {supreme authority}] 2: someone chosen to judge and decide a disputed issue; "the critic was considered to be an arbiter of modern literature"; "the arbitrator's authority derived from the consent of the disputants";... [Output truncated. Use `more` to read more] |
rindolf | Ah, hah. |
rindolf | _DrForr: well, it's ultimately up to thrig to decide. |
Su-Shee | oh if we take thrig's sense of humor as a measurement I see interesting times and judgements ahead.. ;) |
rindolf | _DrForr: or Su-Shee and I can try to convince one another of our righteousness using THERMO-NUCLEAR-WAR! |
jkg | LOVELY WEATHER TODAY. |
rindolf | jkg: LOVELIEST! |
_DrForr | Would you like to play a game? |
rindolf | jkg: THERE IS NO JUSTICE! THERE'S ONLY ME!!! |
jkg | how about a nice game of chess? |
rindolf | _DrForr: is it a quote from WarGames? |
_DrForr | Finally enlightenment strikes. |
rindolf | jkg: "A battle of wits? To the death?! I accept!!" |
jkg | I think you switched movies :) |
rindolf | jkg: seamlessly. |
Su-Shee | if I'm going to war over this, I will win without a battle. |
rindolf | Oooooh... cheater. |
rindolf | Gotta love a girl who bends the rules - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=david-vs-goliath--hacker . |
rindolf | Su-Shee: so how are you going to win without a battle? Will you poison my water? |
Su-Shee | I never cheat. I don't need to. Because you will nicely fall into your own sword without me even moving a finger. and we're almost there. |
Su-Shee | and I will have warned you and I will have made transparent how this works and you will not believe it and yet it will be happening. |
rindolf | Ooohhh... free man destroying himself. |
jkg | evil mastermind 101: never tell your adversaries that you're close to achieving your goals. |
rindolf | jkg: heh. |
rindolf | jkg++ |
_DrForr | jkg: But come on, the cliche'd Bond villain speech is a *classic*. |
Su-Shee | jkg: wrong. tell them. often. they don't believe you anyways. |
rindolf | Su-Shee++ |
rindolf | perlbot: thanks |
perlbot | rindolf: If you want to thank us, help out by sending some money (even just a little) to the Perl Foundation to help with perl5 development - https://secure.donor.com/pf012/give |
rindolf | cyber37_guest: ^^^ |
jkg | heh |
rindolf | cyber37_guest: also feel free to lurk here and learn more or ask more questions. |
rindolf | cyber37_guest: time >>> money. |
rindolf | perlbot: time |
perlbot | rindolf: ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst)=localtime(time); OR Modules: Time::Piece, Time::Format, Time::Tiny, etc. |
LeoNerd | "time. Don't talk to me about time. It's sooooo depressing" |
rindolf | If only we had cryptotime - BitDuration. |
rindolf | And no - I don't mean timestamps. |
rindolf | LeoNerd: heh. |
Su-Shee | so. now I wrote 27 tables and didn't try one of them and now I'm going to shove them all into the database with a makefile which of course will explode .. because.. I didn't try any of them. |
phx | sounds like fun |
Su-Shee | mostly like "stupid" |
rindolf | Su-Shee: good luck. |
rindolf | Hubris! |
LeoNerd | Tests are overrated |
rindolf | Well, a good amount of hubris is useful in moderation. |
LeoNerd | If it breaks, your users will let you know |
rindolf | LeoNerd: heh. |
LeoNerd | .oO( mine do ;) ) |
rindolf | We wouldn't have had modern tech without Hubris. |
rindolf | Or without neophilia. |
Su-Shee | LeoNerd: I have tests actually. thanks to theory's amazing pgtap/mytap. |
jkg | the three virtues of a great programmer: laziness, hubris and necrophilia |
_DrForr | Always mount a scratch database. |
Su-Shee | LeoNerd: haven't adjusted them to the new stuff yet because I can't be bothered to do real TDD ;) |
rindolf | jkg: necrophilia? |
jkg | haha |
jkg | I just realised, I completely misread you. |
jkg | I did think it was a bit weird... |
rindolf | jkg: yes, neophilia - love of novelty. |
rindolf | jkg: possibly being a hipster. |
jkg | sure, I know the word - I just misread and thought you'd dialled the weirdness up another notch ;) |
rindolf | Both neophilia and hubris should be done in moderation. |
rindolf | well, arguably a necrophil is someone who uses antiquated stuff. |
rindolf | Like Thé Symbul in http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Star-Trek/We-the-Living-Dead/ . |
* Zoffix | saves jkg's quote for use later out of context :) |
jkg | Zoffix: you're welcome, I guess :) |
rindolf | Her character was inspired by a very powerful sorceress in the D&D Forgotten Realms world, but in the story, she only has very primitive "superpowers", and is annoyed by always being considered the opposite. |
rindolf | And still she is considered one of the most influential Qs. |
rindolf | Zoffix: meow. |
Zoffix | \o |
rindolf | Zoffix: how is the 4th of July treating you canuks? |
Zoffix | Oh... Happy 4th of July, all you guys down below :) |
rindolf | Zoffix: heh. |
Zoffix | rindolf, business as usual. Except with the US company we deal with being closed, I guess all the customers will be calling me today, instead of them :( |
rindolf | Zoffix: what time is it there? |
Zoffix | 6:12am |
rindolf | Zoffix: ah, I see. :-( |
rindolf | Zoffix: will you get paid extra? |
rindolf | Zoffix: ah, good time. |
Zoffix | For what? |
rindolf | Zoffix: how's the weather? |
rindolf | Zoffix: for handling all their calls? |
Zoffix | no |
rindolf | Zoffix: I'm trying to find a company to sponsor my summer trip to Europe. |
Zoffix | heh |
rindolf | Zoffix: I'm willing to be their cheerleader for the duration of the trip. |
huf | Su-Shee: hmm/ |
huf | ? |
Su-Shee | huf: too late. ;) |
* rindolf | contemplates marrying a chick called Fish and becoming the Fish-Fish family. |
rindolf | There are some Miss Fish of English descent who are not Jewish, including some in .us. |
LinuxGuy | Any ddoser here |
rindolf | LinuxGuy: what? |
rindolf | LinuxGuy: no nefarious activity. |
rindolf | LinuxGuy: and don't PM me. |
rindolf | LinuxGuy: DDoS is wrong. |
LinuxGuy | yeah but its right if it perform for good cause |
LinuxGuy | i can pay for attack |
popl | LinuxGuy: Wrong channel. |
popl | LinuxGuy: Go away. |
* LinuxGuy | (Rock@119.159.20.35) has left |
Zoffix | *Wrong network |
jkg | that was surprisingly effective. |
Zoffix | Also... WTF my LShift+* don't work :( |
BinGOs | >:) |
popl | bullshit losers |
popl | some people make me want to beat them with a rake |
BinGOs | filthy infidel |
Su-Shee | I have no problems whatsoever with a ddos as a political thing. paying for it is stretching it though. |
* icke | (~anno@p5DDB0683.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined |
BinGOs | to paraphrase Asimov "DDoS is the last resort of the incompetent" |
popl | DDoS is stupid. |
Su-Shee | popl: maybe. I still don't have a problem with it as a political act. I might find blockades, boycotts or barricades equally stupid. |
BinGOs | we had to spend money on anti-ddos kit because of idiots. |
Zoffix | Were you ddosed by the guys who sold you the anti-ddos kit? :) |
jkg | that's an excellent marketing strategy. |
Zoffix | heh yeah, sounds like a good business opportunity. |
popl | Great until the court hearing. |
BinGOs | they also stop portscans and what-not. |
BinGOs | which was the main reason for getting them. |
popl | $12 wrench beats $2000 anti-DDoS software. |
BinGOs | they are network bridges really. |
Zoffix | popl, that's why you should find someone online to ddos for you, for payment. |
Zoffix | Oh, wait! That's what LinuxGuy was doing! See? We figured out. LinuxGuy is the guy who sold BinGOs anti-ddos kit :D |
popl | Your logic is exceedingly Canadian. |
Su-Shee | I'm familiar with deductive and inductive logic and all that.. but Canadian.. |
Zoffix | popl, yes, Canadian logic is invariably brilliant :P |
Zoffix | Also, WTF are you gonna do with a $12 wrench? |
popl | syrupy |
popl | Zoffix: What would you do with a $12 wrench. |
popl | s/\./\?/ |
Zoffix | popl, sell it for $20 |
rindolf | Ah, LinuxGuy went away. |
rindolf | Zoffix: <Zoffix> Oh, wait! That's what LinuxGuy was doing! See? We figured out. LinuxGuy is the guy who sold BinGOs anti-ddos kit :D ==> heh! Zoffix++ |
rindolf | This channel is very funny today. |
rindolf | Zoffix: conspiracy theories FTW! |
rindolf | Stop! Reddit time. |
dont-panic | lol... Did he really think someone was going to do some ddosin' for him? |
dont-panic | go play with ping and send exceedingly large and Canadian packets |
locsmif | Anti-ddos? How does that work if it's a packet storm unless you can prune that at the ISP? |
Altreus | load balancing! |
anno | ddefense |
jkg | you just need to set up flow of the same frequency and amplitude, half a phase out of sync. |