| federated_life | once you get into POE and Moose heavily…why stay with perl instead of going to Java ? |
| LeoNerd | I've spent much of this last month writing Perl at home and Java at work.. I really really dislike Java |
| Su-Shee | federated_life: what for? |
| federated_life | since being a real programmer is editing the binary files directly instead of recompiling…but java has a lot of nice stuff |
| LeoNerd | It is far too new FutureFunction<Param,Result>() { public Future<Result> apply(Param p) { noisy } } for my liking |
| Su-Shee | federated_life: WTF? |
| LeoNerd | I always get annoyed that the smallest of things takes just far too much code in Java, to the point that after a glance, I can't see where the real detail is |
| Su-Shee | federated_life: and what nice stuff does Java has? |
| apeiron | federated_life, you know where Java is if you want it. we're not stopping you. |
| federated_life | I'm no java expert, nor a perl expert …. but I don't have to load half of cpan to get moose equivalent in java |
| apeiron | it's hardly half of CPAN |
| apeiron | it's not even a third or a quarter |
| federated_life | :) |
| apeiron | no, not :) |
| apeiron | more like "STFU and stop spreading ignorance-based FUD" |
| federated_life | perl is awesome, no doubts about it, but I'm curious what other languages you guys hack stuff up in |
| Su-Shee | federated_life: then just use Java and leave us using something else if you like it better.. also: plenty of perl code doesn't even need Moose or POE |
| apeiron | C |
| rindolf | federated_life: I also use C, Ruby and Python. |
| LeoNerd | Perl, Scheme, C, Java,... |
| rindolf | federated_life: and I play with other languages too. |
| rindolf | federated_life: and C++. |
| tybalt89 | federated_life: surveys are one channel over |
| Su-Shee | federated_life: C, Ruby, JavaScript, Shell, R and sadly Java for Android stuff |
| lroe | tybalt89, #perl++? |
| LeoNerd | Objective Perl++.NET |
| rindolf | LeoNerd: heh. |
| rindolf | LeoNerd: Enterprise Edition. |
| LeoNerd | Wait, Objective jPerl++.NET surely.. |
| Su-Shee | Objective jPerl.NET++ Enterprise Beans |
| rindolf | Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition. |
| federated_life | jperl !! awesome, now something to make java devs lose their minds |
| LeoNerd | I wonder if anyone has a web framework called Toast |
| LeoNerd | Could make Beans on Toast |
| rindolf | federated_life: there's Inline::Java, BTW. |
| lroe | Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭ |
| LeoNerd | lroe: Isn't the "Iron" something about .NET anyway though? |
| lroe | I added the ♭ |
| lroe | not the iron |
| Su-Shee | LeoNerd: you hid your python. |
| LeoNerd | *ahem* |
| rindolf | federated_life: http://paste.debian.net/218118/ - Larry Wall about Java. |
| rindolf | lroe: isn't the ♭ "flat"? |
| rindolf | perlbot: utf8 ♭ |
| perlbot | rindolf: U+266D (e2 99 ad): MUSIC FLAT SIGN [♭] |
| rindolf | :-) |
| federated_life | rindolf: circa 1997 |
| lroe | yes it is the flat sign |
| lroe | as opposed to the sharp sign |
| rindolf | http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=shlomif-functional-specs--ms-editing-macros |
| rindolf | So now we have: |
| rindolf | Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭ Professional Home Premium™. |
| rindolf | LOL. |
| icebattle | Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭ Professional Home Premium 64-bit Single-user |