rindolf | kee++ |
rindolf | i think hiding info from 'hackers' is futile and nonconstructive - https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/indiv-nodes/fear-is-path-to-dark-side.xhtml |
Natasha | >> Putting Cards on the Table (2019-2022) - "Fear is the path to the dark side" |
K4rMa | i wonder if most muscular women are lesbians |
kee | Statistically speaking, it's unlikely. |
kee | Most women aren't lesbians, so there'd have to be a high correlation between muscle-building exercise and sexuality, and I don't see why there should be. |
rindolf | K4rMa: there was https://friends.fandom.com/wiki/The_One_With_The_Male_Nanny |
Natasha | >> The One With The Male Nanny | Friends Central | Fandom |
rindolf | and i cried recently too when listening to songs |
K4rMa | friends is great |
rindolf | kee: i suspect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappho wasn't really homosexual just playful and parodical, not unlike Ezekiel |
rindolf | K4rMa: yes. i also like TBBT, which is similar |
K4rMa | the big bang theory is the worst |
rindolf | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bang_Theory |
kee | rindolf: Ah yes. Sappho and her very good friend. |
kee | What next? JavaScript was satire all along? |
kee | To be honest, JavaScript being satire makes a lot more sense. |
kee | In Java, Object types can be null, therefore typeof null == "object". |
kee | And so on. Decisions that made some sense in other languages are satirised by JavaScript implementing them identically, or worse, and revealing them for the mistakes they are. |
rindolf | kee: there are many straight male combat soldiers who are fond of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic . i dislike stigma and prejudice… :[ |
kee | This is true, but Sappho wrote quite a lot of quite personal lesbian romantic poetry. |
kee | It's possible she was just that good a poet, but I think it's an unlikely choice of topic for a heterosexual classical Greek. |
kee | Most of her surviving poetry is about her own life in some way. |
rindolf | kee: there may have been fanfic of her, not unlike Aesop |
kee | No, most later commentators insisted she was only attracted to men. |
kee | They wrote quite a lot on the topic, with their interpretations. (Quotes in such documents are the only known surviving copy of some bits of her poems.) |
rindolf | many people made up Aesop fables on the spot - https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/factoids_obsession.xhtml |
Natasha | >> Shlomi Fish’s FAQ - Why are you so obsessed with “facts”/factoids about Chuck Norris/etc.? |
rindolf | kee: i am only mostly straight. i am attracted a little to men [and suspect every pleasure is sexual, creative, conceptual, and educational] |
kee | I don't think "straight" is even a particularly useful concept. (Nor "lesbian".) But it's one of the concepts in our culture, for good or for ill. |
kee | We shouldn't really try to attach modern conceptions of sexuality or whatever to Sappho. |
rindolf | kee: “Do note, however that I kindof am attracted to the bitch type. One of my many kinks. While my friends are attracted to everything that moves, I see no reason to limit myself ( Reference: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Things-Anybody-Ever-Said/dp/0743235797/ref=sr_1_1 ).” |
kee | Tbh, most historians are too obsessed with her sexuality. She wrote plenty of other poems! Just because we only have one-and-a-bit of those, doesn't mean we should pretend they don't exist. |
rindolf | kee: yes. |
rindolf | kee: i haven't studied ancient greek philosophy / culture closely, but OTOH haven't watched most Sesame Street skits either |
kee | Sappho wrote in a regional dialect of Greek. |
kee | Since it was a different dialect to the one that later became Standard Classical Greek, many classicists decided her poems were trash, because they couldn't understand them easily. |
kee | So they just didn't copy them off the original papyrus. |
rindolf | we will always play catchup |
rindolf | kee: ah |
rindolf | kee: BTW, did you hear about https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/fan-pages/samantha-smith/ ? |
Natasha | >> Fan page for Samantha Smith - Shlomi Fish’s Homesite |